I am amazed and impressed that the men at American Vision is willing to take the case for Black Reparations seriously.
I personally would not have considered reparations a viable option, as I consider the death of 1/4 of the white manhood of the South and the rise of the centralized (aka liberty-denying) Federal State sufficient payment, as well as ~1 Trillion dollars spent on the welfare state. But I am willing to consider the issue again, as:
- Quite a lot of laws – from Nixon’s drug laws to the minimum wage rules – exist primarily to keep black men down. (Odd, that most white drug users are not imprisoned, but black dealers are…)
- The welfare state does not exist to provide justice and formal payment for various American political promised broken and justice denied, but merely to buy submission. You know, exactly like the Bureau of Indian Affairs does to keep the American Indian pacified and dependent.
More than reparations, though, I would prefer to have sovereignty brought to the county level, with black-dominant counties as free as white ones (or mixed ones), to govern themselves as they please (American Indian counties would be free as well, as well as the Mormon and other non-Christian counties).
I personally don’t believe that there is any possible circumstance where White Americans will pay cash to Black Americans: but freedom, sovereignty and liberty (along with some form of free trade & movement of goods/people/information treaty) would go a long way to making right what was set wrong.
None of this is going to happen anyways, at least not in a well thought out, reasoned, and publicly debated manner.
Instead, we are all going to go on the fantasy-island road already set for us, until the money runs out, the Great Default occurs and the Washington government delegitimized. Then, the various shrinking White populations will band together in various regions where they retain a majority population base, and leave the rest of the country to fend for itself.
(I don’t think that there will be any unity among Whites, by the way: Washington State is not Kentucky is not Vermont is not Montana. And the Whites of California and Texas are going to be really good in Spanish, regardless of their complexion…)
The liberal coastal cities will be mainly fighting for their own survival after the future Detroit (and Chicago… and Californian… and National…) bankruptcies: their populations aren’t going to like the end of the welfare state, but they will adjust. Probably by White flight (in many, but certainly not all, instances), fragmentation, and abandonment.
So, the same result, but more chaotic, quite possibly with unneeded bloodshed, and certainly less law-abiding and predictable. There won’t be a national culture then, and probably not even a mainstream media. “But the fat lady hasn’t sung, until the New York banks are busted or shattered.”
From the article:
The blacks never got their forty acres and a mule; they got segregated while whites continued living off the profits that had come from slave labor. These conditions were passed down through generations. Blacks deserve something.
Promises broken, once again.
Then again, the United States is absolutely grounded on a single concept: broken treaties, over and over and over again.
The Russians got off lightly after the end of the Cold War, when American promises not to expand NATO was laughed off as quickly as was possible. Or perhaps, this is a hint that justice is drawing closer to the US, when the old smooth lies lose their effectiveness.
It was not simply enough that “the slaves were freed” after the Civil War. They were victims of a horrendous crime. They were entitled to restitution, and they were promised restitution. Instead, they got continued racism and segregation. This was not just a Southern problem by the way. Throughout the United States at the time, the prevailing desire by far among white emancipationists was to free the slaves and ship them back to Africa; many Northern “emancipationists” did not support ending slavery unless doing so also entailed deportation. Living together in social equality was considered impossible by most, shockingly horrible to many. The view of social inequality of most whites, North and South, entailed a tremendous amount of oppression in regard to available work for blacks, living conditions, working conditions, terrible rackets of exploitation, loan sharking, and much more. During Reconstruction, several prominent Southern cities created police departments for the first time specifically to use vague and flexibly-interpreted statutes to target blacks, incarcerate them (get them “off the streets”), and then use the prison force for state labor projects. In these cases, it was enslavement all over again.
From Reconstruction all the way up until the Civil Rights era, “freed” blacks were subjected to a variety of segregation laws, not to mention extralegal action and violence, that all had the effect of the routinization of exploitation, oppression, degradation, and the perpetual denial of a particular, clear justice that was both due and promised.
There is no biblical argument against that. You could make all kinds of arguments that amount to an appeal to some kind of statute of limitations; but this is not a statute of limitations issue. God has no statute of limitations for social sin and injustice. This is precisely the type of injustice for which God stores up his wrath over four generations (Canaanites) or four hundred years (Israel). This is the kind of issue for which candlesticks get removed and nations stricken down Deuteronomy 28-style.
I believe that Joel McDurmon is correct here.
We haven’t even got to the aborted babies, or the disintegration of marriage: we are merely dealing with old sins, which have not been properly resolved.
My suspicion: the real pain kicks in after around 2040, when the welfare state is over and done, and the US and Europe disintegrate/decentralize, a process that will be resisted to the full by the elites, and so will be much more painful and costly than necessary. These nations won’t be the only ones to suffer, but they will be the most famous of the secular, anti-Christ kingdoms to go down by AD 2100.
(And if the Saudis, the Turks, the Egyptians, the Chinese, or the Indians think that they are going to pick up the pieces of the dying New World Order… they can think again!)
(Yes, by 2040, the European Union will have been long gone: but the disintegration will have merely continued, with the coming breakup of Spain and Italy at least, and the probable later collapse of the UK, France and Germany (and, quite likely, even Russia.))
And incidentally, the Civil Rights era didn’t mark the end of Black oppression: just look at the destruction of Black Wealth (such as it was) in the last recession, especially their home-based wealth. The coming recession will finish off the finances of Black America…
… which merely means that it’s time to complete the destruction of White America financially: first the wealthy (who will suffer the stock and bond collapses the most), and then the middle/working classes (with the end of Social Security/Medicare).
The greatest problem for reparations now is, in fact, practical. It is that, after such great passage in time, how in the world we would account for who all gets paid, how much, for how long, and who has to pay it. At this point, I am less averse to having it paid from the general fund (assuming it would be cut from other areas of the budget, many of which are waste and idiocy anyway), even though this would seem to be the very type of socialism I myself decry. I think, however, that is not socialism per se, but a matter of justice delayed and yet due, and should have been exacted from the public wealth of the South to begin with. I would be happy to see other parts of actual socialistic bureaucracies denuded of budget to make restitution where it is due, could it actually be calculated and all the logistical and individual issues sorted out. This thinking of mine is purely conceptual and heuristic at this point.
Phased that way, even I would cheerfully accept the destruction of substantial amounts of the US bureaucracy (and the defunding of the military of the American Empire) to pay for Black reparations.
First, restitution is a biblical law issue, and justice denied is God’s wrath stored up. This will not go away, ever. It will be resolved, eventually, through godly social reform, or God’s judgment.
I’m betting on judgement, myself.
Just as Europe will be in agony (but will still refuse to repent of a single sin), so will America be in agony as well (an unrepentant America, of course).
I am pleased to see Christian Reconstructionists push forward with God’s Law-Word, though. There will be a place for them, in God’s future — a future that will be established on this world, in history, with the foundation increasingly composed of the shattered bones of His enemies.
People think that God is kidding. He is not.
He really is going to disinherit His foes, White as well as Black. (But Whites more harshly, as more was given to them.)
In a few centuries, after the devastating Sunni/Shiite Wars and the collapse of Egypt, Turkey, Iran and Saudi Arabia, there will be millions of Arab men singing the praises of Christ upon the Throne… and if the atheistic Europeans choose to abort themselves from that future, well, no one is going to worry about that too much.
God wins. Satan loses. And that’s that.
So, I look at this as we should any judicial issue: consider the law and the facts. We need an accurate account of the biblical law and the facts of history. I think we are very close on the law aspect already. We need an uncompromising account of the history that makes clear to people that the tyrannies we live under now are direct extensions of several aspects imposed on the nation because of the racism inherent in the civil war, Reconstruction, and segregation, etc. These policies are both North and South, Federalist and Confederate, liberal and conservative—such that both sides of the war and its consequences have done what the title of one very decent book sums up admirably: Emancipating Slaves, Enslaving Free Men. If I can successfully show this history, and how racism lies at its root, I believe Christians may be able to wake up to the types of criminal justice reform, and other reforms, that are needed badly today. For, it is needed for all of us, not just blacks, but the tragedies of black history and healing the unique history of their suffering lie at the heart of it. So much to say in this regard. If people will in fact not wake up, I will have at least done my part; and it is good and right to do.
This leads to my second reason. This, by far, is the saddest lament of my heart in all of this. The people who should have been at the forefront of this healing—long before it ever even began—were in fact the most disappointing failures. This was the ministers and the pulpits. When they should have stopped the racism at the outset, they exacerbated it. When they should have reformed slavery drastically—when their pulpits should have thundered with the truth and with threats of excommunication for abuses—they instead most often thundered with defenses of the peculiar institution.
Preachers – the most powerful and respected ones, anyways – seem to routinely betray Christ.
- The first to support Darwin…
- The creators of Higher Criticism…
- The major impulse of Socialism…
- The shock troops of Communism…
- The prime backers of Liberalism…
I personally think that God is done with the unbiblical nonsense of the seminary, and the clergy of the future aren’t going anywhere near the denominations, happy and cozy in their Christian ghettos.
Leading and prominent theologians, even for the longest time in the North, continued to support the system even if by only justifying the racism at the heart of it. It was as if the Imago Dei didn’t even exist, even when it was acknowledged. Of course, the Southern churches are more blameworthy as they continued in upholding slavery and racism much longer that the Northern, but they are both blameworthy for not opposing it when they had the chance, and not standing up to the landed and moneyed interests in their churches and societies—at a time when the pulpit actually had much sway in society.
God wearied of these men who despised them, so He took away their sway and authority.
And no, they learnt nothing from the punishment. Remind me again how many politicians and wealthy men were excommunicated for supporting abortions.
OK, how about ordinary members?
Um… reprimanding casual visitors?
The ones that didn’t openly publish defenses of the system, nevertheless exonerated themselves through two-kingdoms type theology so they could turn a blind eye the “civil” aspects. As I am always intensely interested in addressing this pernicious and deadly doctrine, I most keenly wish to hold up this example of it as a mirror for modern proponents, and for modern Christians to see the awful results to which it can lead, and lead easily. On the reverse side of this, for those critics in all backgrounds—evangelical, secular, etc.—who say it was the South’s adherence to Old Testament forms that allowed slavery to continue, I aim to show that not only was this in no way the case, it is just the opposite. Had the applicable Old Testament laws been followed properly, American slavery would never have become what it did—it could not have.
This is the correct way to approach the issue: Obedience to the Law means Liberty for all God-fearing men, regardless of their skin colour. “One Law for All!”
But for want of that biblical view of race, social relations, and slavery, etc., and for want of the pulpit doing its job, the slack was picked up by radicals, atheists, Marxists, and leftists of all sorts. The left stepped in and pretended to care about race; and they really do care about race because they can exploit the issue for their own agenda of radical equality and totalitarianism. So, the church’s abject failure has become a mighty victory for the left on an issue that has enduring relevance for generations to come. We spend our time now fighting the leftists and neglecting a thorough, biblical answer to the race problems—because “that’s what leftists talk about.”
Don’t let the enemy – or the fear of the enemy – set the agenda.
Dabney spent virtually the remainder of his life railing against the radical egalitarians and liberals of all sorts. You can read much of what he wrote and agree with him still today. But he failed to address the core issues of race and slavery in a biblical way—and that was what mattered most.
Failure to keep the Law in one part, means failure in all.
Conservatives today still follow the legacy of Dabney: they see that the leftists took the side of the blacks. They see the leftism, and they rail against the leftism. Any time race comes up, they dismiss its arguments because they’re dismissing the leftism. But there’s more to it. What you say about the leftists may be right, but you’re missing what matters most.
And as long as you do, you will not do anything but perpetuate the judgment that which is to come, and is upon us already.
You have to see things God’s way, and not from your personal or tribal or national self-interest.
The other sad aspect of this failure today is that when conservative ministers or groups do want to engage in healing race relations, they don’t develop a biblical case for it. They can find no conservative legacy of fighting for race, no body of biblical thought, and no development of conservative biblical social theory, because that would mean jettisoning the radical two kingdoms stuff, and looking to biblical law. So, such groups and Ethics Commissions have nothing to say except to default to talking points already developed by the secularists and leftists. This is not healing race relations; this is capitulation to leftist rhetoric.
Why let the Satanists set the agenda? To avoid paying the price the Bible demands?
I say we should instead start planning a comprehensive, conservative biblical program of healing race relations, not even shying from considering reparations on the table. It will involve many issues, like criminal justice reform, what repentance in this area looks like, how, in fact, the issue actually gets resolved so that it is resolved, etc. These are huge and divisive questions. But I am almost convinced that if conservative organizations did this, they would not be “becoming leftists” or like the left at all. They would, in fact, find that their fiercest opponents would be leftists—because if it were ever actually resolved and the races healed, it would denude corrupt politicians and activists, and all leftists, of a pet issue they perennially exploit and never intend fully to resolve, and for which conservatives keep falling.
There is no possibility that the Left will resolve any issue… at least until the Leader and the Party are in charge.
Which is when all issues are instantly resolved… and anyone saying otherwise will get a bullet in the back of the head.
So, these are the reasons I am doing this. It is a biblical law issue; God will judge us; addressing it will further Reform and perfect God’s church; many, many, people will be restored, and many will see a great light; and this is intimately connected to many other areas of needed social reforms. It is a huge issue. And that is just the type of issue God calls His people to address.
It’s time to do the hard work, for a true and enduring victory.