Knowledge, Faith, and the Refusal to Yield

From Uncommon Descent’s Prof claims to know how to slam dunk creationists

The late Will Provine (1942–2015) used to note that creationist students tend to know more about evolution than their “just shoot the shot, pass, and forget it” peers (By Design or by Chance, p. 141). Seminars at churches are more informative than hanging out at pot shops and malls.

Note: Provine was also absolutely clear that teaching modern Darwinism meant teaching nihilism but he never fibbed about that:

Let me summarize my views on what modern evolutionary biology tells us loud and clear — and these are basically Darwin’s views. There are no gods, no purposes, and no goal-directed forces of any kind. There is no life after death. When I die, I am absolutely certain that I am going to be dead. That’s the end of me. There is no ultimate foundation for ethics, no ultimate meaning in life, and no free will for humans, either. Darwinism: Science or Naturalistic Philosophy April 30 1994


Evolution is the greatest engine of atheism ever invented.

One concern is that if Darwinians cannot reach their social control goals peaceably, they will resort to other methods.

First, I am confident that knowledgeable, committed Christians, willing to pay the price in time and work and pain, will crush both Darwinians and (by far the greater threat) compromising Christians within the camp.

“Well sure, Darwinians don’t really believe in objective truth anymore, are fleeing into the impossible-to-prove multiverse to escape God, and are deluded when it comes to sexuality, reproduction, morality, and the economy. Even if Christians did nothing, the Darwinian Secular State will collapse of its own accord – like all the rest of Christ’s enemies.

But how are you going to deal with compromising Christians?”

“Easy. The compromisers merely follow whoever can give them the most goodies, whoever has the most money and power at any given moment of time.

Be sure to pointedly refuse to trust them, grant them no position of authority or honour when it comes to matters where they challenge and defy the explicit direction & teaching of the Bible.

We have no need for more leaders like Judas Iscariot, “the first Christian bishop to accept a government grant.”

Of course, if they repent and hold the word of God over and above that of men, thing can change. But first comes repentance.

Until then…. they can go run to their Masters on earth, the men who have the money and positions and honours they lust after.

WE must follow the direction of the Lord our God.”

Modern Secularists merely need to go with the flow, to get the pat on the heads they want.

Christians must work, and learn, and study, and dig… while receiving only the hatred and malice of the Secular State.

But the Secular State is not the Lord we fear….

Second, the writer fears the secularist atheist. And i admit, they have a lot of government, media, and academic power.

You know, just like the Soviet Union in 1985.
Or Nazi Germany in 1941.

The thing is: Our Masters kill their children and load themselves (and any surviving children) with tons of debt, while chasing fantasies ever more detached from reality… and inviting over quite a lot of Arabs, who have no intention of continuing on the Secularist State.

When the money is done, they are done.

While they are flailing about in their delusions, they can certainly cause damage: but we must focus on gaining the future.

And never forget: all the power they have is ONLY because most Conservative Christians explicitly refuse to resist, because it might cost them something.

The moment Christians get serious about victory, is the moment they have won. Everything else is merely processing the inevitable.


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