Deep Time

[The following is a snippet of a post I made at my sci-fi blog.]

Extra info:

Age = a time period of millions of years

Epoch = tens of millions of years

Period = about a hundred millions of years

Era = hundreds of millions of years

Eon = half a billion years or more.


[Snipped off a Satanic bureaucratic dream of bringing total, unchanging stability to the galaxy, and their use of long time scales to plan out such a future.

That is what the Lake of Fire is all about…  the world of the dead, not the world of the living.]

Deep time

Deep time, in modern scientific parlance, refers to the millions of years that have passed since the Big Bang.

Deep time is a minimal necessity for large-scale, microbe to man unguided evolution. As I have no intellectual need to evade the implications of an intelligently designed universe, I don’t need deep time to be set in our past.

But, as a Christian, I am confident that there is deep time is be set in our future. “Whenever we like it, or not.”

I intend to welcome it with open arms.

But the definition of “I” is going to shift somewhat. My life and thoughts as a three-inch-long child in my mother’s womb is radically different than my life as a 5-year old boy, which is different than how I am today.

Assuming great advances in cybernetics and biotech, there is a very-thin-but-real possibility that I can live to 5,000 years of age before I die. It’s much more likely that I’ll perish at around 80, though… and I will be different at that time, than I am today.

And life in the New Heavens and the New Earth will be different, yet again. But at that time, those measurements of Deep Time – ‘ages’ and ‘periods’ and ‘eons’ are actually going to mean something, and be put to work just as we use minutes and days and years… and sometimes decades.

I’d like to take a look at the tools that will be used by Christ & Company to work with, for those time scales, in that Far Future. And the goals those tools will be used to reach.

And, assuming my salvation, I wonder what “I” will be three million years from now. Someone very interesting and very noble, I pray!

But for now, “one day at a time”, as the grand old hymn goes.



Salvation, The Resurrection, and Fairytales

Once Saved, Always Saved

Minton over at Cerebral Faith has an interesting viewpoint on the permanence of salvation:

I’m glad you found my Can/Won’t model helpful. By the way, to readers who don’t know what Jordan is talking about, he’s referring to my half-way house between the Arminian view of apostasy and that Calvinist view of “Once Saved Always Saved”, which I defend in a 3 part blog post series, here, here, and here. This proposal asserts that while Christians can lose their salvation, they won’t lose their salvation. They are able to exercise their libertarian free will and turn their backs on Christ, but this is a decision they won’t ever choose to make. In other words, apostasy is a possibility, but it’s a possibility that won’t ever be actualized. God utilizes His middle knowledge to keep the elect freely persevering. For some, the means are the various warning passages not to apostatize (e.g Hebrews 6), for others, God keeps them through Christian Apologetics, for others, he uses still other means. This view, I think, takes seriously the warnings in scripture about turning away from Christ while at the same time not shoehorning security passages like John 10 and Romans 8:38-39. We can take both the warnings and security passages at their straightforward reading.

I like this viewpoint, mainly because of the outworking of this position, as summarized in that last sentence.

The Resurrection and Fairytales

I had motives for not wanting the world to have a meaning; consequently assumed that it had none, and was able without any difficulty to find satisfying reasons for this assumption . . . The philosopher who finds no meaning in the world is not concerned exclusively with a problem in metaphysics, he is also concerned to prove that there is no valid reason why he personally should not do as he wants to do, or why his friends should not seize political power and govern in the way that they find most advantageous to themselves . . . For myself . . . the philosophy of meaningless was essentially an instrument of liberation. The liberation we desired was simultaneously liberation from a certain political and economic system and liberation from a certain system of morality.  We objected to the morality because it interfered with our sexual freedom; we objected to the political and economic system because it was unjust. — Aldous Huxley, as quoted in Uncommon Descent.

Incidentally, he has just finished a series of evidences of Jesus’ resurrection in the flesh. This is not a problem for me for a range of reasons, but it could be beneficial to some of my readers… or even friends of those readers.

Now, there may well be people who just don’t know the historical evidence, and will be easily persuaded once they get all the facts. That alone makes the series worthwhile!

But I have a suspicion, though, that people – especially in the West – already know that Christ is King… but they just don’t want to kneel, worship, and obey. And they use stale, century-old, long-refuted objections to justify their refusal. Call it the difference between the official reasons, and the real reasons.

As the author writes:

Be Willing To Follow The Evidence Wherever It Leads 

If you understand the importance of knowing whether or not Christianity is true, then you’ll take the time to either read this blog post series or read the book adaption of it. If you do take the time to listen to my arguments, please follow them to their logical conclusions. My friend Neil Mammen has a saying “Don’t let the consequences of your logic cause you to abandon that logic.” 6 Not everyone who denies the resurrection of Jesus does so purely on intellectual grounds or on the grounds that the evidence isn’t sufficient. Some people deny that the resurrection occurred simply because they want it not to have occurred. Some people aren’t Christians because there isn’t enough evidence to establish that it’s true, but because they don’t want it to be true.

If Jesus rose from the dead, then Christianity is true. If Christianity is true, then several implications follow. It means that if you’re living in sin, you’ll have to repent. Jesus said that if you even look at a woman with lust, you’ve committed adultery in your heart (Matthew 5:28), and adultery is one of the things God said not to do (Exodus 20:14). If you like to spend your evenings downloading and looking at pornography, you’ll have to get that out of your life or answer to God for it (2 Corinthians 5:10). But porn watchers don’t want to do that. Watching porn is fun! It’s exciting! Porn watchers don’t want to give up porn because they enjoy it too much. Others may want to sleep around, bouncing from woman to woman as Charlie Harper did on the hit sitcom Two and A Half Men. According to Hebrews 13:4, this is a no-no. If someone engaged in this behavior doesn’t repent, they’ll be facing judgment. Romans 1:26-28, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, and 1 Timothy 1:9-11 prohibit homosexual relationships. Some people don’t want Christianity to be true because it means they’ll have to stop having sex with their same-sex partner. 2 Corinthians 6:14 prohibits a believer marrying an unbeliever. Some people may not want Christianity to be true because they know that if it is, they need to become Christians or else they face Hell, and if they’re Christians themselves, they’ll be prohibited from marrying their boyfriend or girlfriend who is also an unbeliever.

For many people, it’s a purely intellectual issue. Merely being presented with the evidence in this blog series will be sufficient to persuade them to become Christians. For others, they’re resistant to following the evidence where it leads because they’re in love with their sin, and don’t like the idea of having to exchange their pet sin for a relationship with Jesus. Jesus talked about this when he said “This is the verdict: that light has come into the world. Yet men loved the darkness rather than the light for their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light and will come nowhere near the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed.” (John 3:19-20). Echoing Jesus’ words, the mathematician and Christian Apologist John Lennox said: “If religion is a fairytale for those afraid of the dark, then atheism is a fairytale for those afraid of the light.” 7

So again, “Don’t let the consequences of your logic force you to abandon that logic.” Don’t let the consequences of Christianity being true to force you to swim against the current of evidence pointing against it. The Christian Apologist Frank Turek of often exposes someone as resisting Jesus on emotional or moral grounds by asking them one simple question: “If Christianity were true, would you become a Christian?” That’s the question I’m posing to you, dear reader.

This is a dark era, where the historical facts points to the light of life… but people prefer to back fairytales that point to the dark of the grave (“So long as we escape hell.”)

But this is God’s universe, and as the Kingdom of God expands, the darkness has no choice but to retreat.

Again, the initial post of the series is here.


Resources for Presuppositional Apologetics

A nice collection of presuppositional apologetics has been posted here, on American Vision. Check it out!

But what is presuppositional apologetics, anyways? It is the stance that…

“…only the Christian worldview provides the necessary preconditions for the intelligibility of human experience. That is, only the Christian view of God, creation, providence, revelation, and human nature can make sense of the world in which we live. So, for example, only the Christian worldview can make sense out of morality since it alone provides the necessary presuppositions for making ethical evaluations, namely, an absolute and personal Law Giver who reveals His moral will to mankind.

It does not make sense, however, for the atheist/materialist to denounce any action as wrong since, according to his worldview, all that exists is matter in motion. And matter in motion is inherently non-moral. That is, since the world according to the materialist is totally explicable in terms of physical processes, and since physical processes are categorically non-moral, moral considerations have no place in his worldview. Thus for the materialist to say that stealing is morally wrong makes as much sense as saying that the secretion of insulin from the pancreas is morally wrong.

[This is not to say, however, that atheists never act morally. Atheists feed their children, give money to charity and often make good neighbors. But atheists cannot give a justification for their actions. In the words of Cornelius Van Til, they are living on “borrowed capital” from the Christian worldview. Thus they profess one thing, but their actions belie this profession].
— Michael Butler, from

[Note: I broke up the above quote into three pieces, for readability.]

1) Internet Wonder 2) Internet Warning

(Note: Possible dead videos below… but the text should be OK.)

From Gary North, I got this interesting video from the CorbettReport:

It is a nice, pleasant video from a channel that may well be taken down — and sooner than later — because of the non-/anti-Establishment opinions on other videos of that same channel.

Colbertt warns of this in the following video:

It is/was titled, “YouTube is Now ThemTube: Time to Flee the Failed Platform” and here the speaker advises non- and anti-Establishment video bloggers to abandon YouTube and move on to other platforms, including

Richie Allen is the example he gave: I am sure that there will be many others, before YouTube is simply abandoned by all excepting corporate interests and the centre-left types. (But I repeat myself…)

He recommends (as of Feb 18, 2018)


And of course,


Christians would be wise to get diversified and get ready.

Thought Crimes in England… and Disinheritance

The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.  He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail. Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the Lord thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which he commanded thee: — Deuteronomy 28:43-45

Hate Crimes, Thought Crimes

I would like to put a special emphasis on this part of the video (as quoted below, in TakiMag’s England’s Assisted Suicide )

It is quite clear that not only do the post-WWII cosmopolites who comprise the modern British managerial elite not only have no compassion for England’s poor and abused whites—rather, they actively hate them. The Metropolitan Police’s definition of a “hate crime” is enough to give George Orwell conniptions:

If someone does something that isn’t a criminal offence but the victim, or anyone else, believes it was motivated by prejudice or hate, we would class this as a ‘hate incident’. Though what the perpetrator has done may not be against the law, their reasons for doing it are. This means it may be possible to charge them with an offence.

These vague, slimy and ultimately unquantifiable “hate crime” laws are being used as a psychological cudgel to terrorize indigenous Britons into keeping their mouths firmly shut as they impotently watch everything around them being deliberately destroyed.

The Will of the People

Well, that’s your problem.

The people do not “impotently watch”: they support the current agenda, either by their indifference or their active encouragement. If they wanted a different culture, they would take responsibility to make a different culture.

In general, people get the government they deserve. And the antiChristian — and therefore tyrannical and lawless — attitude of the British (and Western) Ruling Classes are basically backed by the general population, just as (say) the North Korean elite is supported by their general population.

If a mere 3%-5% of a population decide to dump their rulers, those rulers are dumped. Period.

But a price must be paid to ditch the current leadership… and the distant gain must be seen as worth the immediate gain to change the ruling elite. Most of the British population simply don’t think that liberty is worth the price needed to gain it.

Assuming that they value those freedoms — rooted in a locally extinct religion and culture fewer and fewer people can even remember — over the ease and immediate benefits gained by supporting the current system.

If you value a particular culture, a people, a land, a way of life,
then you pay the price to build and promote and protect it.
If you don’t value it… you don’t.

The British lose what they do not value, and gain what they do value.


No Free Speech

In 2016, authorities in Telford petitioned British Home Secretary Amber Rudd to launch a Rotherham-style investigation into the decades of child sex abuse in their town, but they received no response. It is thought, however, that Rudd played a role in preventing 22-year-old conservative YouTuber Laura Southern from entering the UK on March 12.

Southern’s crime was that during a previous trip to the English city of Luton, she’d distributed tongue-in-cheek “LGBT for Islam UK” fliers which were obviously meant to shine a spotlight on leftists’ willful blindness about how Islam routinely blasphemes some of KultMarx’s most sacred of sacred cows. Ignoring the fact that Islam is not a race, the UK Home Office accused Southern of “distribution of racist materials,” said she advocated “Christian extremism,” and concluded that her presence in England “is not conducive to the public good,” and insisted that if her pale-and-frail toes were to graze British soil even for a moment, it would represent “a threat to the fundamental interests of society and to the public policy of the United Kingdom.”

Long, long ago, the United Kingdom abandoned any connection with Biblical Law, and the result is tyranny… as usual.

But again, that is to be expected. “Free speech” is rooted in the prophet’s insistence that the king hear and obey the law of the Greatest King, God.

Moderns don’t believe in the authority of God, King of Kings: only the authority of the King who controls the national armies. As such, they have no need to hear the word of the Lord, and thus, they will do their best to insure that His voice is not heard.

So, no free speech.


A Change of Elites

The current atheistic tyranny will be a short-lived phenomenon, though.

The real future can be seen by the opening of ~500 mosques every year in London, and the closing of ~500 churches in that same city.

The atheistic/secularistic ruling class don’t believe in having children, and have no hope for the future. They are only grounded by their hatred for Christianity — THE class marker as of 2018, backed by wealth and academia alike — and a love of immediate pleasure.

The young and committed Muslims of Britain have children and a goal of distant victory: a goal they are willing to make sacrifices for in the here and now.

In time, the Western ruling class and the growing Muslim demographic will come together over their shared hatred of Christ and their shared will of power. The dying party will insure a full transfer of power to the young and hungry…. and that will be that.

In the Long Run: Disinheritance

The story won’t end there: I am confident that Christ will cause even an Arab/Islamic Britain to bend the knee to the cross – just as “post-Saudi” Arabia and Egypt and Iran will, in time.

But by that time, Anglo-Saxon England will be only in the history books, remembered as a cautionary tale of

  1. God and patriotism and liberty, leading to
  2. Evangelism, liberty and increased dominion (land, science, wealth), followed by
  3. Darwinism, empire, racial self-infatuation, and ruinous, costly wars, completed by
  4. Nihilism, self-loathing, collectivism, slavery, foolishness and death.

Righteousness exalts a nation,
But sin is a disgrace to any people.
— Proverbs 14:34, ESV

Appendix: the definition of “Hate Crime” at the Metropolitan Police website:

Hate crimes and hate incidents

In most crimes it is something the victim has in their possession or control that motivates the offender to commit the crime. With hate crime it is ‘who’ the victim is, or ‘what’ the victim appears to be that motivates the offender to commit the crime.

A Hate Crime is defined as “Any criminal offence which is perceived by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by hostility or prejudice based on a person’s race or perceived race; religion or perceived religion; sexual orientation or perceived sexual orientation; disability or perceived disability and any crime motivated by hostility or prejudice against a person who is transgender or perceived to be transgender.”

A Hate Incident is any incident which the victim, or anyone else, thinks is based on someone’s prejudice towards them because of their race, religion, sexual orientation, disability or because they are transgender.

Not all hate incidents will amount to criminal offences, but it is equally important that these are reported and recorded by the police.

Evidence of the hate element is not a requirement. You do not need to personally perceive the incident to be hate related. It would be enough if another person, a witness or even a police officer thought that the incident was hate related.

The Rise of the Sub-Creators

(A modified copy of a sci-fi post is below, with an addendum.)

Take the word “Vilani” to mean “no-growth, nothing changes, safety-and-stability first” way of life, and the “First Imperium” to be their kind of government, in the style of the Pharaohs, Ming China, or all the other anti-growth, anti-tech, hard-conservative culture.

You know, like those wicked servants who buried their talents rather than take the slightest risk of loss – and so rob their Master of any growth whatsoever to better protect their own faithless, fearful skins.

[My additions for this post are in brackets.]

Issac Arthur is more optimistic than the title of the video suggests.

That being said, some of his concepts are Just So Vilani:

Once you max out a planet to its comfortable population, people wanting kids need to move, people wanting to climb ladders need to move, people bored with Earth need to move, people who want a bigger home and more land need to move, and so on, while people bored with life presumably let themselves die and probably get replaced either by someone who really wants to live on Earth, complete with the culture on it, or got raised by folks who think a thousand years is a perfectly plausible timeline for an apprenticeship.

[This could be a fine way to insure stagnation — “just follow my example, and never ask why” — or it could be a fine way to teach all the things you can’t put in words, to convey the spirit of your work, and not just the technical aspects.

I suggest that the time we have on earth serves as a hard apprenticeship for high positions later,

And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
— Revelations 1:5-6, KJV


Consider him who endured from sinners such hostility against himself, so that you may not grow weary or fainthearted. In your struggle against sin you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood. And have you forgotten the exhortation that addresses you as sons?

“My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord,
    nor be weary when reproved by him.
For the Lord disciplines the one he loves,
    and chastises every son whom he receives.”

It is for discipline that you have to endure. God is treating you as sons. For what son is there whom his father does not discipline? If you are left without discipline, in which all have participated, then you are illegitimate children and not sons. Besides this, we have had earthly fathers who disciplined us and we respected them. Shall we not much more be subject to the Father of spirits and live? For they disciplined us for a short time as it seemed best to them, but he disciplines us for our good, that we may share his holiness. — Hebrews 12:3-10 (ESV)

God is no slackard. If you expect to serve in His kingdom, expect to pay the price.

First serve well, then rule powerfully” as Jesus modeled for us.

On the other hand… the old multi-century lifetimes were removed after the Noahic flood, so evil would not multiply or mature, but always be cut off. But as the world is more fully redeemed, long lifespans — as predicted in Isaiah — return once again.

Things don’t necessarily have to go that way, but it’s very easy for me to imagine Earth as a bit of an island of relics in a sprawling empire of a billion artificial habitats inside our solar system, itself inside an even more sprawling galactic civilization. Old, rich, and quite possibly obsessive about preserving things.

In other words… Vilani. [A.k.a. A pagan, stagnant vision of the future, rather than the expanding, Dominion-oriented one that Christ showed in His life.]

We try to keep our monuments and historic properties around these days, even though we didn’t live there and experience that. It’s possible they might not value antiques as much because there’s no mystique to them. Odds are the construction crew for Stonehenge might complain less about moving or replacing some of the monoliths than we would, but I think it more likely every house on Earth would start resembling a museum or archeological site.

“Welcome to the heart of the First Imperium!”
[The land of dead men’s bones, and whitened, venerated sepulchers.
God expects much better, from you and from me.]

[…snipped some of the discussion about graves: something genuine immortals won’t have to worry about. I am unsure if Jesus even wants us to preserve His grave, even as a memorial. “Why look for Him among the dead?”]


But keeping to modern death rates and grave sizes, notably being 6 foot deep, you would layer the planet with tombs in a million years and we still have 5 billion or so left. If those were perfectly preserved you’d layer the land with tombs 10 kilometers or 6 miles deep. We certainly tend to build on top of ruins, it’s pretty well accepted that whether you build a city on a coast or a hill or river, after a while what you’re mostly building that city on is itself, and all the leftover buildings and garbage of prior generations. And with ultra-strong materials and better technology, I could see a civilizations just locking up someone’s apartment when they died with them in it to never be used again, just visited and maybe not even that.

“The Ancestors Approve.”
“The Traditions have been Upheld.”
[“Let the dead bury the dead.”]

That’s a little bit more plausible than it sounds like too. Ultra-strong materials along with ultra-durable ones and self-repairing ones are likely to be technologies we pursue vigorously and are probably on the table, and have to be taken in the context of Ecumenopolises and Arcologies.

“And nothing ever changed, ever again.”
— the Vilani equivalent of “And they lived happily ever after.”

[Things don’t change much in hell, and not at all in the Lake of Fire.

Just endless pain to put an end to all sinful thought… which, for the damned, is ALL their thinking.

No growth, no change, no future, no power, no hope.

Just eternal failure, eternal agony, eternal powerlessness and futility and waste and worthlessness.

The Second Death.]

However, if there is a civilization around then [a billion years from now], it seems very unlikely they’d not take steps to prevent such events or that the galaxy would be particularly natural anymore.

We can say stellar formation in the galaxy ought to drop off to very little in a trillion years and cease entirely in 100 trillion at most. You can have a lot of civilizations arise in a trillion years, but realistically, unless all civilizations terminate at about our current technological levels – – rather than getting out to the stars – – I wouldn’t expect natural star formation to occur more than maybe a few million years after they left their planet.

Of course, I stand with the Solomani [the Vibrant Living],
and not the Vilani [the Frozen Dead].

  • Things are going to change,
  • We are going to change it,
  • So since things are going to change, let’s change things for the better.

*** The original post ends here ***

Of course, I am assuming that God will not forever limit our Dominion Mandate to just this world. I could well be mistaken… but, humanly speaking, I don’t think so.

[See: the implications of logarithmic growth: not just population wise, but knowledge-wise, and holiness-wise, and the expansion of the Kingdom of God to cover the whole earth, and wherever living men are, inescapably.]

In any case, better to assume greater blessings with greater obedience. Just as I assume that we would have been eventually permitted to lawfully eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil… if we had placed God’s Will above our own drooling lust for power without law or limit.

Unlike Adam, Christ humbled Himself before His Father. Let’s follow Jesus’ example — the example of a winner, and not a loser — and reap the blessings of putting God and His Commandments First, and ourselves and our own will second.

Perhaps we will gain the stars, perhaps not… but we will have the love of God to nurture and build and direct us, His Law inscribed in and on our hearts, His Holy Spirit to guide and advise and strengthen us in the way of righteousness, justice, love, and peace. Christ’s people will be seated on thrones to rule the cities and areas Christ appoints for us.

And that’s worth more than all the burning balls of gas, all the rocks, all the time and space of the entire creation. The greater thing, holiness and obedience, FIRST. The rest, great or small, will be decided by God Himself… and rightfully so.

(And didn’t Christ create the heavens? And aren’t all things under His feet? And shall we not reign with Him, under the authority of the Father and the Son, filled with the Holy Spirit, forever?]

He who comes from above is above all. He who is of the earth belongs to the earth and speaks in an earthly way. He who comes from heaven is above all. He bears witness to what he has seen and heard, yet no one receives his testimony. Whoever receives his testimony sets his seal to this, that God is true. For he whom God has sent utters the words of God, for he gives the Spirit without measure. The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand. Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him. — John 3:31-36, ESV